People see what they want to see? I’ve seen content I don’t agree with on several instances but the main reason I’ve got my main on lemmy.ml over Beehaw is because it annoys me greatly that there’s so often posts I don’t see that are relevant to me or just communities that seem accessible but inactive but are actually blocked without the interface saying so. This spuriously makes it seems as if a community is dead.
To avoid ambiguity: Trump is a sentient lump of metastatic cancer and many right leaning people are limp-dick insecure ignorant assholes.
This comment section is solid gold. You’ll be able to come back and harvest new posts any time you want until they lock it, if they don’t it’s gonna go for days and just pick up steam.
Great job my man!
Just block the instance, makes you happier and the trolls are left without food.
i blocked the triad of tankies when someone reccomended it a few months ago, plus any conservative ones. and any users trying to infiltrate from those instance into the other ones that defederated with them.
Why not just go back to Reddit at that point?
Piefed and .world the ultimate lost Redditor starterpack.
I dont get this
They think being against authoritarians means you’re a Reddit-style neoliberal.
I think it’s more about tribalism. I have seen both good and bad takes on both .ml and .world. I think Lemmy is slowly losing the civil conversations that could be had here before.
You forgot “Joined 2 years ago”
Hey!
You’re on .world though.
I despise the posts here constantly whining about .ml about basically nothing.
Users go there to call everyone a Tankie, then get banned, and then make whine posts here as if they got banned for no reason.
That’s how we know
how I look while typing replies:
I can’t tell whether a meme featuring a character from a Chinese game company is part of the joke or coincidental.
Either way, I upvote for Silver Wife.
Thanks for the laugh.
Do you people have any idea just how much signage costs? It way cheaper to have everything figure out it’s own danger sign.
Their defense mechanism is just to simply ban what they don’t like. Sooner or later, their little walled garden is going to start smelling like shit from the smug arrogance of all the fart-smellers that pretend to have a clue.
The purist of projection
I mean, all moderated spaces on the internet suffer from this problem. Lemmy.blahaj.zone has a blanket ban on all Marxist-Leninists because they think we are all authoritarian. Which, btw, is hilariously ironic. An anarchist space on an anti-censorship platform has a rule that says “No Authoritarians,” but they resort to Authoritarianism to enforce it. You can’t make this shit up.
Same energy as “how can you claim to be tolerant if you don’t tolerate fascism”
Are you really out here spouting horseshoe theory? Imagine equating communism with fascism in 2025 while claiming to be a leftist.
You should read more. Authoritarian doesn’t mean “When there’s rules”.
Yeah it means “when there’s rules that western liberals don’t like”
Ah, my little 📦 🧠! Last time we met, you wanted to show me proof that soviet union elections weren’t a complete farce. Got the numbers yet?
???
Well, I was looking at the election results in the Soviet Union. Here’s the result from 1946:
Now, these numbers seem sort of odd. Like, it’s a very good result for Bloc of Communists and Non-partisans, but a result this good seems to be impossible in a free election. So I’m wondering, am I missing something?
???
When those rules are to blanket ban everyone who disagrees with you, that’s authoritarian.
The rules don’t do that though. They ban groups such as nazis and leninists. Which is based.
“it’s not authoritarian when I ban all my political enemies!”
I guess it’s based if you hate successful socialist projects 🤷
Are those successful leninist projects in the room right now?
Blahaj is genius, best place to maintain an account. In fact there was such a big fight one of the big mods in .ML was banned for gatekeeping and they’ve been incredibly butthurt ever since.
thankfully the mod team over there is excellent and not made up of chronically online authoritarian-obsessed weirdos. I think the lack of access to them, the truth thar blahaj called to their bigotry, really affects them.
Edit: this is wrong, same shit but a world mod, ml mod was a diff thing. Both suck imo.
I think you’re taking about pugjesus from .world
Shit you’re right, that was the chronically online weirdo on my instance, the chronically online bigot on your instance made trans into a class issue, sorry. I think he said being Trans was bougie or something.
Keep correcting me if I get this wrong again.
Nutonic did say that! if he ever comments on a comm I moderate I’ll ban him too.
The sh.itjust.works admin said something similar as well, not a fan.
That’s the problem with defed, a lot of the time the people who have the time and motivation to host or spend a huge amount of time modding are like an archetype. While the users (me) are like 3,000 shades of asshole. It’s impossible to consistently move forward cause humans kinda suck.
Pure projection
Fucking hilarious.
Why don’t you go and read the modlogs yourself. Then head over to any one of the several communities dedicated to calling their shit out.
Closing your eyes and plugging your ears doesn’t make things not happen. You should take this newfound knowledge back to the hive and spread it around. Bets that you get banned for it
Cool story
You might want to sharpen that edge a bit. I don’t think it’s been done since 2006 when “cool story” was the chosen troll bait.
You’re back today, this is gonna be so good.
Sad
How many do you think you left!
Idk try counting
I mean, it’s an exercise in impact for you, not me, I’m aware of how shitty my footprint is.
You can’t count
whats wrong with ml?
The users
Lol
:(
Anything critical of China or Russia is fake and western propaganda
You’re a mod there and the only user?? 🤣🤣 Please this can’t be healthy.
hi hexbear alt 👋
Case and fucking point. It’s almost sad. Fuck me
hi troll 👋💖
There’s a large Marxist-Leninist smear campaign happening on Lemmy right now, with most people centering their hate on users of lemmy.ml
They don’t worship netanyahu fervently enough for the centrists on .world.
are you an .ml alt, or did you rat yourself out?
tankies, the triads of tankies on lemmy. because the left version of MAGA, although they have many parallels of right wings, so basically a mirror version.
Left version of MAGA is when you don’t accept “diversity of opinions” regarding the genocide of Palestinians when you want universal healthcare for everyone, and when primarily you criticize the west as a westerner for engaging in imperialism
I think it’s right to say that Palestinian civilians should be able to live in peace, and it would good if poorer people can get healthcare. On the point of “imperialism”, would you condemn seemingly imperialist behaviour from countries like Russia and China as much as you would condemn imperialist behaviour from western countries? I see users from Lemmy.ml and Hexbear who defend the behaviour of Russia and China for whatever reason.
Tell me a war in which China has participated over the last 30 years. China simply doesn’t engage in remotely imperialist behaviour compared to the west.
As for Russia, I wish it was still a socialist country, but unfortunately now it’s another capitalist antidemocratic regime. Surely since you care about Ukraine, you condemn the capitalist regime in Ukraine which led to the defunding of healthcare, education, the removal of guaranteed housing and guaranteed employment, and a massive demographic crisis of loss of life through hunger, crime, drug abuse and lack of healthcare, which killed millions of Ukrainians prematurely?
Tell me a war in which China has participated over the last 30 years
I guess the answer to my question is “no” then…
China simply doesn’t engage in remotely imperialist behaviour compared to the west
They’re colonising islands in the South China Sea which other South East Asian countries claim, even though a UN tribunal ruled that China’s claims aren’t valid. Also what should people think of seeming mistreatment of ethnic minorities in China? Of course there are examples of western countries mistreating minorities, e.g. the USA interning Japanese-Americans during WW2. I don’t know if the USA is currently doing anything similar to what is described in the article I just linked to though.
Surely since you care about Ukraine, you condemn the capitalist regime in Ukraine which led to the defunding of healthcare, education, the removal of guaranteed housing and guaranteed employment, and a massive demographic crisis of loss of life through hunger, crime, drug abuse and lack of healthcare, which killed millions of Ukrainians prematurely?
Did this happen after the USSR collapsed? I don’t know enough about Ukrainian history to be honest. I do think though that it’s probably a good idea if world borders, such as those of Ukraine currently, aren’t redrawn by force. It’s probably better to settle disputes democratically and diplomatically.
They’re colonising islands in the South China Sea which other South East Asian countries claim
Hardly can you call it “colonize” when there isn’t a population in said islands. At any rate it’s much less violent than the poverty and lack of political representation that Puertoricans are imposed by the US.
mistreatment of ethnic minorities
Oh wow, a BBC article from 2021. Surely we should trust western state media to tell us unbiased facts about its geopolitical opponents. The BBC has famously avoided the word “genocide” for referring to Gaza over the past years, with scandals coming out of editorial orders of employees to avoid such reporting. Taking the BBC seriously on the mistreatment of Muslims in China is as laughable as taking Russia Today seriously on the mistreatment of ethnic Russians in Donetsk.
As for the “mistreatment of Uyghur”. I have had this discussion 50 times in Lemmy: bring me a 2022-2025 source with contemporary independent journalistic accounts of generalized mistreatment of Uyghurs. Not a piece written by Radio Free Asia based on “anonymous witnesses”. Not a piece written by Adrian Zenz based on “official government statistics”. Bring me some, any independent journalistic work post-2021 about mass mistreatment of Uyghurs.
Also, your lack of concern for Ukrainian mass economic and population crisis suggests that your criticism for Russia doesn’t come from a genuine care about the people suffering from the actions of the Russian government, but rather from an agreement with western propaganda.
Hardly can you call it “colonize” when there isn’t a population in said islands. At any rate it’s much less violent than the poverty and lack of political representation that Puertoricans are imposed by the US.
Whatever you call it, I would still say it’s imperialist behaviour of China to take over islands that it doesn’t seem to have a right to. Regarding Puerto Rico, I think they should have proper representation in the US Congress. Are Puerto Ricans being interned in camps like Uyghurs in Xinjiang though?
Taking the BBC seriously on the mistreatment of Muslims in China is as laughable as taking Russia Today seriously on the mistreatment of ethnic Russians in Donetsk.
No it isn’t, because RT seems to air lies, while I don’t think the BBC does. For example, RT featured an interview with two Russian military intelligence agents who seemed to have lied to hide the fact that they poisoned Sergei Skripal in England in 2018. Can you provide an example of the BBC doing something like this?
any independent journalistic work post-2021 about mass mistreatment of Uyghurs
What is wrong with the BBC article I provided? You haven’t shown that the BBC lies or is unreliable. It looks like The Guardian has also reported on this story though and here are articles from Sky News.
your lack of concern for Ukrainian mass economic and population crisis
I genuinely am just not aware of what you were referring to. Anyway, I hope that Ukrainians and Russians can live in peace, and preferably with political freedom. The first step towards achieving this would be the Kremlin withdrawing their invasion of Ukraine. I think Ukraine should be able to make their own democratic decisions. Ideally every country should be able to make independent democratic decisions I think.
Must be exhausting to continously maintain your campaign against .ml
Why not just block and move on with your life?
How much effort does thinking of a joke and posting it take you???
Well they don’t have a job so to them, starting weird fights about instances is their job.
Hmmm? Only the unemployed can make jokes? Are all commenters jobless too or only posters? Or everyone but you is jobless? I’m so curious how you came to this conclusion!
Hmmm? Only the unemployed can make jokes? Are all commenters jobless too or only posters? Or everyone but you is jobless? I’m so curious how you came to this conclusion!
? I think maybe you forgot what you wrote? Or are responding to the wrong thread?
Here’s what you wrote and what I responded to:
Well they don’t have a job so to them, starting weird fights about instances is their job.
So I’m just curious how you came to this bizzare conclusion.
Whats the issue with ml?
The ml stands for Marxist-Leninist, and the admin (and creator of Lemmy) named themself after a genocidal warlord
Edit: only on Lemmy will you find people who read shit like this and say “that’s not a genocide, those women and children deserved to be executed for the crime of being French”
That certainly is a take on jean-jacques dessalines who led the haitian revolution aganist slavery after the french betrayal of toussaint louverture.
It is an objectively correct take. Genocide, believe it or not, is always bad
I want to make it unequivocally clear that slave owners deserve to die. If they had only murdered slave owners, I would be a fan
That doesn’t look like genocide to me because there was a credible threat to their freedom from the white people that benefited from slavery like the teachers, doctors, merchants etc. even if they personally didn’t own slaves there was a clear incentive for them to want to bring back slavery. Also notably white people that fought with them were spared, so it’s not just wantonly killing everyone who is white.
And even if excessive (which I’m not conceding btw) I’m not gonna blame slaves that had just won their freedom for being overly paranoid and suspicious of the society that enslaved them. This is not like other massacres that are directed at oppressed people to exploit them or steal their land, this is the other way around, the oppressed making sure that there is no trace left of the society that oppressed them.
Jesus Christ. I’m talking to someone justifying the slaughter of fucking doctors and teachers and children, and I’m the bad guy in this discussion
I mean if the doctors and teachers are part of a slaver society than I don’t mind the dying. Like who do you think were the people upholding apartheid in south africa for example? Especially doctors, teachers and other such middle class people that benefitted from apartheid but without having to get their hands dirty were the ones handwringing about “civility”. They always have such a nice facade and talk politely but their livelihood built on the back of the labor of the oppressed is very very precious to them and they are for freedom in theory, but don’t want to give up any of their privileges.
Or as Assata Shakur put it
As far as I’m concerned, ‘liberal’ is the most meaningless word in the dictionary. History has shown me that as long as some white middle-class people can live high on the hog, take vacations to Europe, send their children to private schools, and reap the benefits of their white skin privilege, then they are ‘liberal’. But when times get hard and money gets tight, they pull off that liberal mask and you think you’re talking to Adolf Hitler. They feel sorry for the so-called underprivileged just as long as they can maintain their own privileges.”
I mean if the doctors and teachers are part of a slaver society than I don’t mind the dying.
Fuck you. Quit running apologetics for genocide. Dessalines did not wait to check if the people he was having raped and murdered played any role in the institution of slavery.
That’s still not a genocide, dumbass
It’s not a genocide, it’s just the indiscriminate slaughter of a people based on their nationality
No, it’s isn’t that either
I know that reading is hard for communists, but
A few non-French veterans and American merchants, along with some useful professionals such as priests and doctors, were spared. Those who failed the triple test of skin color, citizenship and vocation were simply wiped out
Is pretty straightforward. What do you think Dessalines meant when he pledged “to kill every Frenchman who soils the land of Freedom with his sacrilegious presence?”
Genocide, believe it or not, is always bad
People who say this when the president is a democrat are called “tankies” by the pro-genocide center.
No, Im pretty sure these people pretending to have innocent opinions are pro genocide because they are putting their egos ahead of pragmatism by pretending they don’t understand the immense harm done when they falsely equate both parties just because neither are left leaning.
Also when they ignore that the only chance of having leftist policies come to life in America is through shifting a winning democrat party over multiple terms in a very boring and not fun at all way rather than a fictional grass roots uprising magically changing the USA, famous for its molasses slow politics, over night.
“You’re pro-genocide because you’re not as pro-genocide as me!” -every last pro-genocide centrist.
I’m not quite sure I can even begin to follow the logic there.
There are 2 realistic options and people pretending there are 3 are choosing the worst of 2.
It’s full of whackjobs that love far-left authoritarian regimes. They’re doing the left a huge disservice because they’re bat shit crazy.
With claims like this, you make it very easy to dismiss what you’re saying, but given that I kinda can guess what you mean if I give you the biggest benefit of the doubt humanly imaginable, are you referring to the type of people who say shit like “we should form a party” completely oblivious to the way their own politcal system works and the fact that it would only ensure that the only path to escaping the regime was sealed shut?
No, he’s right. I know, it’s hard to believe, but these people really are batshit crazy. We’re talking stetements like “Stalin did nothing wrong”, “China is right in killing the Uigures” and “Ukraine is former UDSSR territory therefore Russia is not invading”.
“China is right in killing the Uigures”
If someone says something happened on the fediverse without providing a link, they’re lying.
That’s an easy position to have except it immediately makes every conversation easy to cohear with sealioning.
I can understand being skeptical of the other persons summary of sentiment, I am as well, but I don’t think your statement is accurate.
It’s a mild exaggeration. I sometimes talk about things happening on the fediverse without providing a link, but the difference is, if I’m asked for a link, I can provide one. It isn’t difficult to use the search function, especially if my memory of a conversation is reliable.
In any case, it’s always best to assume the person is lying if they say something about their opponents’ views that they can’t actually back up. Like, I could say that I had some half-remembered conversation with somebody where they said they like to torture puppies. If you read that, it shouldn’t go into the “maybe” column, it should do into the “false” column. It’s false until it’s validated with evidence, and that’s especially true when evidence should be easy to provide.
If you treat it as anything but an outright lie, that promotes a culture of making stuff up, because bad actors are fine with getting people to think their opponents “might” torture puppies, and they won’t get called out in that culture. This is how you get crybullies.
In any case, even if it isn’t an outright lie or bad faith, you can’t rely on people’s memories. Hell, a lot of the time, a person couldn’t even accurately restate the other person’s position during an argument.
I’ve said this line dozens of times btw (and it’s in my profile). I don’t recall ever being proven wrong, they never have the receipts.
Can you provide some examples
You could check the MeanwhileOnGrad community that documents every bit of it, but your instance admins blocked it on your instance to keep you all in the dark and shield themselves from accountability. You’ll have to view it from a different instance.
Isn’t that com run by an actual fascist? Funny how “anti-authoritarians” always seem to just mean “anti-communist”
Popped over and saw a post saying a user was praising the Uyghur genocide. Read the post and instead it was a guy saying that China was successfully deradicalising terrorists…
So yeah. No ones saying “I love that China is genociding muslims!”
Hey look everyone! It’s a .ml user using a single example to serve as proof that the well-documented dumbassery of .ml is all just made up. Or you know, their MO for all disagreements.
A snake, a cat, a living toxic ball full of venom …and a puffer fish.
the rattlesnake is also venomous,
I am American and say .ml is the perfect representation of the American population.
Is it sarcasm?
Not at all. The only group I have ever seen that is as toxic as .ML was The Donald on Reddit. The Mods and users are literal propaganda machines and they all have alts and abuse the shit out of everyone who doesn’t boot lick authoritarians.
I honestly believe they are no different than the Alt-right. Maybe it is one of those horse shoe things, but more likely they are just disingenuous conservatives.
more a horseshoe thing. Once someone gets so authoritarian, there’s kinda’ no point in even looking for differences. They’re both interested in tasting boot, so fuck 'em both.
If lemmy.ml is like a startled cat to you maybe it’s time to treat them differently?
Spay & neuter them?
Every time I see an anti-.ml meme I wonder, why are people so worried about people seeing .ml content? If they’re jerks, wouldn’t you want people to stumble into .ml and find out?
Probably good to warn people that .ml isn’t representative of the fediverse at large, they’re just very loud.
If you were introducing a new friend to America but for some reason, knew their flight was landing in a MAGA convention, would you not warn them so they didn’t immediately turn around and go home?
.world is much louder than .ml
Much louder and more annoying about what they hate. .ml sticks to their same places. .world then invades and has its trolls stalk accounts into debates.
Okay, so if your friend would be frustrated by fairly mainstream opinions, wouldn’t you warn them about that too? Or just better to have them sort it out for themselves?
Seems pretty simple…
Telling my friend, someone I know, is one thing. Buying a billboard is another
You buy your memes instead of just making them while on the toilet? Wild.
But the larger point is that for a growing social network, yeah, warning newcomers about a group most find unpleasant (and given the upvote ratios on the post, the fediverse seems to agreed) seems a simple courtesy and helps us expand. Doing so in a jokey meme is just a fun way to do so.
I just don’t follow the logic. Let people waunder in to .ml and find out for themselves. Right now it just looks like the libs of .world are trying to censor .ml. What is .world so afraid of? Lemmygrad? That place is hilarious.
A warning isn’t censorship…
But, let’s work through the logic if you really don’t get it.
Why would you warn your friend but not others in the MAGA convention example? (Maybe this is the key.)
My conspiracy is that people are trying to ramp up enough of a campaign to defederate from .ml, not knowing it’s history on Lemmy and how most .ml users are actually quite chill and actually genuine people once you get to know them. I mean Jesus Christ guys, .ml users arent all bots.
It does seem that way. I think you’re right
Certain people just like echo chambers and can’t see the value of opposing beliefs or arguments, no matter the level of sense that those may or not make.
Libs vs tankies is just an extension of imperial conflict.
Before I found out, I would have preferred to find out naturally. After I did stumble in and find out, I wished somebody had warned me.
Oh poor thing, you’ll recover from the trama someday.
Roughly in about the timeframe you would remove the pointy tree branch from prostate that’s making you such a condescending cunt. 😢 sorry if I don’t hold my breath
Anti-leftism is an all consuming, load-bearing pillar of fascism. Since .ml is tangentially leftist aligned…
Authoritarians are not leftists LMAO
“Marx and Engles weren’t leftists” ok.
The left/right axis is separate from the libertarian/authoritarian axis.
The USSR was an leftist authoritarian state.
This doesn’t stand materialist scrutiny. You don’t get an authoritarian state directed by a bunch of egotistic bureaucrats, and simultaneously the lowest wealth inequality in history in the region, guaranteed housing and the elimination of unemployment, the defeat of nazism, global support of anti imperialism such as in Vietnam or essentially all of Africa and Latin America, free education to the highest level, and high quality affordable public transit.
In my point of view calling yourself a socialist and not being able to criticise the blatantly anti-democratic and imperial power the USSR became is weird.
Socialism (in my view of it) necessarily requires democratic structures at work as well as government.
Despite the USSR’s positives (all countries have them) let’s not pretend like they had a good template we should emulate (on governance and voting, that is).
Without democracy, you’re basically hoping the people in charge are benevolent. But then when they’re inevitably not at some point, you have no way to peacefully remove them.
Next minute you’ll be telling me China is a democracy just because they elect people the the National People’s Congress. (Another country, with many positives, which is not a democracy).
And please do not confuse my criticism of notionally socialist states (China is definitely not), with implicit praise of the “democracy” in the United States, what they have is barely democracy.
My statement isn’t that the USSR was perfect, it is that all of the material benefits listed above must come from material reasons. You would not expect a government based on a set of self-serving antidemocratic bureaucrats to result in such benefits, because when that’s the form of governance it ends up more towards things like Saudi Arabia.
What’s more feasible, that Soviet Citizens got lucky with Lenin, then Stalin, then Khruschyov and then Brezhnev, or that there were actually democratic means of exerting popular power other than electoralism?
Why do you call the USSR “imperial” power? It never engaged in colonialism or economic exploitation of the global south, quite the opposite. What was imperialist about it?
Regarding China, I would argue they’re more democratic than the west based on the outcomes of governance and on the satisfaction of citizens with their government.
You would not expect a government based on a set of self-serving antidemocratic bureaucrats to result in such benefits
Sure, there was genuine ideological reasons for the USSRs achievements, but you’re moving the goal-posts a bit. The original claim you were disputing was whether the USSR was authoritarian, which many people agree that it was.
There can be genuine and successful efforts to improve people’s lives under any system, including in the USSR.
What was imperialist about it?
- The Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact and occupation of Poland
- The Winter War against Finnland
- The East German uprising of 1953
are the first to come to my mind.
It would be a lot easier to defend the USSR if they only intervened to allow the proletariat to hold referendums, but we both know this is not what happened on many occasions.
It seems to me that Russia was continuing in the tradition Russian Empire, just under new management, and was definitely the first among “equals” in the USSR and its sphere of influence.
No one “worries” about seeing it. It’s that if you engage with anyone from, or anything posted in, a .ml, about any topic at all, you’ll eventually be hit with “capitalism causes all problems in the universe” or the rest of their standard “I’m 19 and this is deep” tankie talking points like some mandatory checklist of things they have to cram into every post or they get kicked out of the instance. It’s exhausting and pointless. No one runs around elsewhere in Lemmy making it a point to defend capitalism, so it’s just of a constant eye-roll when “I’m an independent thinker! Here’s the same thing we all say!” happens.
Edit: OOOh, seems like I struck a nerve, eh?
No one “worries” about seeing it.
Then block them and quit whining that people don’t like exploitation as much as you.
Did you know the explaining the thing doesn’t mean one endorses the thing? Did you know that explaining the thing isn’t “whining” about it, but, in fact, is explaining the perspective of another person? It’s important to learn about other perspectives, even if you don’t like them.
I find it mildly annoying, but not bad enough to bother blocking anyone.
It’s that if you engage with anyone from, or anything posted in, a .ml, about any topic at all, you’ll eventually be hit with “capitalism causes all problems in the universe” or the rest of their standard “I’m 19 and this is deep” tankie talking points like some mandatory checklist of things they have to cram into every post or they get kicked out of the instance. It’s exhausting and pointless.
This sure sounds like whining. Because that’s all you’re doing. How dare people to your left not immediately kill themselves for your comfort.
Let’s consider the same text with a different context and see if it sounds like something else.
It’s that if you engage with anyone from, or anything to do with, New York, about any topic at all, you’ll eventually be hit with “New York is the greatest city in the world!” or the rest of their standard “Ayyyy, NYC!” New Yorker talking points like some mandatory checklist of things they have to cram into every post or they get kicked out of the city. It’s exhausting and pointless.
It’s that if you engage with anyone from, or anything posted in the Linus Tech Tips Forum, about any topic at all, you’ll eventually be hit with “Linux is better than Windows” or the rest of their standard “Arch is the only distro worth using” Linux talking points like some mandatory checklist of things they have to cram into every post or they get kicked out of the forum. It’s exhausting and pointless.
I wrote this as essentially the statistics of interactions, and acknowledging that it will end a conversation about any other topic, no matter how much work one puts into keeping the conversation on topic. It’s just very likely to be how interactions go in my experience. Doesn’t actually bother me one bit, but it does seem like a poor way to go through life.
I wrote this as essentially the statistics of interactions,
And the “19 and edgy” thing? Come on. You’re whining because people to your left are allowed to speak and you want permanent silence so you can listen to the fascists on the right.
yeah, it reminds me of college freshmen. You get one idea stuck in your head and lose all sense of nuance or perspective.
are allowed to speak
No, y’all are annoying about HOW you communicate your opinions. Which I’ve repeated several times in this thread and none of you seem able or willing to understand it’s communication style and not the ideas that anyone is talking about here. And it’s just annoying, no one wants to silence you, you can’t even understand that. Y’all are so sensitive that simply calling you out for being abrasive about one thing is some grant attack on your ego and all the “right” ideas in the world and your entire identity. You’re just as bad as any MAGA people can be.
Say anything you want, but I can get “it’s capitalism’s fault!!1!” anywhere. It’s not a unique or special take. That doesn’t 1) make it necessarily true, and 2) convince anyone that maybe it actually is capitalism’s fault. Tell me WHY, in that circumstance, be specific, nuanced, and detailed about why you think capitalism did he bad thing. Maybe listen to Marx about rigidity of thought.
I do not look forward to your response where you make up some BS about me selling stocks to pay for this interaction or something equally untrue and absurd.
When people post comments like yours or memes like the above it really comes off as defending capitalism and the status quo…
Don’t you understand how mypoic a view that it? How dependent it is on you thinking you have an absolute lockdown on ALL ideas there can be, and that anyone who isn’t you is against you? Only a fool would think that everything is split in perfect dualism and that you’re the only one that’s right.
It’s basically the same thing I see from super evangelical family members. If it’s not something they like, it’s “from Satan.” Is that really a behavior you’re trying to emulate? That level of absolutism and rigidity of thought?
FFS, both Lenin and Marx warned you about the dangers of rigid thinking. And here you are, doing exactly that! You’re not even a good Marxist!
You’re taking everything to absurd extremes and assuming I’m something that’s convenient for your weak argument. People posting memes like this are pushing for the lockdown of ideas.
Speaking of taking it to extremes, y’all (or maybe 1 person with 5 accounts, it’s hard to tell) so far in this thread people have reacted to saying “yeah, they’re annoying about how they interact with other people” as: trying to put ideas on lockdown, wanting to silence anyone “left of me,” that I’m actively supporting all existing political structures and capitalism, and then a ton of personal attacks. Because I explained the joke to someone else.
I especially loved that my “hopes are also profoundly stupid.” Ah yes, a response that is classy, high-brow, and I’m fairly sure it’s a direct quote from Lenin at the Zimmerwald Conference (since I have to tell you all, apparently, that was sarcasm).
Seriously, look around here. Y’all are not fun to talk to in general about anything because of this right here. And when someone says it out loud, you happily confirm you’re not fun to talk to and do the thing that the meme is about.
This isn’t about your ideas, it’s about how abrasive and annoying you are to interact with. Look at how many times I’ve had to repeat that, and every time you all immediately jump to “yOu’Re sIlEnCiNg iDeAs!” No, y’all are bad at human-to-human interaction. Without enough self-reflection to even pause and see that’s what was happening from the start.
You clearly haven’t engaged with anything, and lol @ “independent thinker” from someone defending the dominant economic and political system, which fyi is exactly what you’re doing
The dominant economic and political system is mixed and always has been.
Lol no, it’s currently capitalism
What is capitalism?
Are you being serious? Embarassing
It seems to me at the moment you define essentially everything as capitalism
As we know, socialism is when the government does stuff, and the government does some stuff, that means its a mix of capitalism and socialism.
Everyone paying for the police that protect the institution of capital is an example of socialism.
-libs, probably
capitalism is when rich people exist then?
It’s not about the economic system, it’s the constant china glazing
It absolutely is about the economic system, and the “china glazing” is a direct response to US propaganda
So your response to people glazing the usa is glazing an authorization country. And you wonder why people don’t like ML?
No, it’s not about the economic system. Christ knows communists aren’t in short supply on lemmy, if that was true you’d see more support. Don’t kid yourself.
No, people are attacking China with misinformation created and distributed by the US specifically because their economic system represents an existential threat to our own
You can be anti-capitalist without sucking China’s scrotum.
ah, classic ml. Genocide deniers
.ml is just the latest designated “tankie” instance. So far it’s the third one. Once .world defederates from .ml, the same people who currently hate .ml will designate another “tankie” instance to hate.
Some of them have already started with Db0
People designated .ml as a tankie instance for very good reason: the admins of .ml have repeatedly shown to be pro-authoritarian.
For years now I’ve seen incessant gaslighting from tankies pretending that “tankie” is some catch-all term baselessly thrown around like “woke”. However, I’ve pretty much exclusively seen the term “tankie” used to describe people who support authoritarian regimes/dictatorships.
By any leftist conception, capitalist nations are undeniably authoritarian, yet you never see self described “leftist” who praise welfare capitalist states like the Scandinavian countries getting called a tankie. Clearly the term is not “used to describe people who support authoritarian regimes/dictatorships”.
LOL. Your main instance — lemmy.blahaj.zone —has a blanket ban on all Marxist Leninists, regardless of whether they are “tankie” or not. That is the most authoritarian thing I have seen on Lemmy so far and it’s from a self-proclaimed anarchist instance. The hypocrisy is hilarious. Anarkiddies are so unserious.
Sure? But Blahaj isn’t a country, it’s a social media.
I’m free to register on multiple instances at once. If I ever became displeased with Blahaj’s admins, I could very easily go elsewhere.
.ml also isn’t a country
Why are you talking about countries? This thread is about social media.
My apologies for the confusion.
In my original comment, I was talking about the term “tankie”, which is a term we’re seeing used a lot on Lemmy (a social media) to refer to people who support authoritarian governments (of countries, such as Russia and China).
In my reply to you, I meant to say that the effects of a Lemmy instance being “authoritarian” aren’t at all as harmful to its users as an authoritarian country is to its residents, since it’s easy to change instances but its not generally easy (and sometimes not reasonably possible) to change countries.
So .world is extremely anti free speech? Is there an easy way I can block all of .world from my feed then?
This guide is wrote up for those who have a hard time banning .ml and constantly removed about being able to see our content. It could be used to ban .world if you want i guess.
Welcome to a tutorial on how to block .ml on your personal account.
In the top right corner of the top of the page, there are 3 horizontal white bars. Click it.
This will open up a drop down menu. At the bottom of that menu, you will see your username. Click it.
This will open another drop down menu with 3 options. Click “Settings”.
At the top of your screen you will see 2 tabs. Click the one that says “Blocks”.
Here you will see “Block user” “Block community” and “Block instance”. Click the down arrow below “Block instance”.
This will open up a search bar. Type “lemmy.ml” and click it after it shows up.
That’s it! You’ve blocked .ml and will never see content from the instance. Now you don’t need to make a feud post every day complaining about .ml and other instances you disapprove of. Think of all the time you will save!
But wait, we aren’t done yet in this menu. Click the down arrow under “Block user”. Now type “UltraGiGaGigantic” Make sure you select my .ml account as the other ones I no longer use. Thanks, appreciate it.
That’s it! You’ve blocked .ml and will never see content from the instance. Now you don’t need to make a feud post every day complaining about .ml and other instances you disapprove of. Think of all the time you will save!
That’s not enough for the centrists. They don’t want anyone to be allowed to be exposed to any idea to their left. Under any circumstances.
The amount of effort it seems people who like to call themselves leftists but aren’t remotely interested in any practical means of getting there are astonishing.
I don’t think they ever make good faith arguments and spend 100% of their time online complaining about the practical leftists, doing things like calling them centerists for realizing their 1 day plans for revolution aren’t actually ever coming to fruition, or pointing out that their rhetoric, has, and continues to harm people by pulling power from the practical and pragmatic to the whimsical nonexistent nonsense they call solutions to problems but are actually just dream goals.
Somehow, no matter the damage they cause, they double down on pretending the people who aren’t in dream land but have the closslest to their goals as them, are the real problem worth complaining about and not the people setting things on fire.
I have to feel like these people are Jill Stien esque psyops sent to derail leftist ideas from ever actually seeing the light of day.
When it comes to doing the right thing for the American people, the useless centrists you insist on calling “practical leftists” do nothing and call it incrementalism.
When it comes to selling weapons for genocide, they can’t do it fast enough and will fight to keep doing it no matter what it costs the American people.
The country has slid to the right for decades and “practical” do-nothing-but-genocide centrists are enthusiastically complicit.
You are clearly trying to strawman me again, which seems like your go to move here.
The DNC is currently a center right organization.
Practical leftists support them because they understand that in the American political system it is impossible to make another party, so the only way to avoid what we have here is to support the democrats and change them with local politics and primaries.
The practical leftists aren’t foolish enough to believe that the democrats losing will magically move them left, as what we’ve seen is instead, they’re happy to continue being “at least we aren’t republicans”
Your attempt to call the centrrists do nothing but genocide is an astoundingly ignorant take that shows you truly don’t take politics seriously, as you only go based on vibes and not policy decisions and more than that do not understand how little can be done in a permanent fashion when voters let in the other party every 4 to 8 years and you have no usable senate super majority.
You have yet to say anything that wasn’t repeating your strawman like a broken record. Like your politics don’t have any nuance to them at all or aren’t your honest opinions but just something you where to troll people who are actually angry with the state of USA politics.
So I should avoid Libertarians, OpenBSD, and the IWW?
I don’t know about the rest but yeah libertarians generally suck. But they can be really funny, just not when they’re trying to tell jokes.
For my favorite of all time, go to r/libertarian and search “age of consent”, then sort by controversial
