I’m not really sure, maybe it’s just the extent or the amount of incompetence that makes it different to me. It’s sort of like fascism-lite, because even if trump WANTS all trans people taken away / treated as undesirables and has caused a lot more people to hate them, he hasn’t been able to enact “if you are trans you will be killed” like I would expect under fascism. I also don’t feel like even the crazy maga people want the democratic party to not exist, they just want democrats to “stop being stupid.”
I was listening to an expert on cults talk about trump and MAGA, and he said trump plays to the crowd rather than saying what he believes. For instance when he said "I hope you’re all vaccinated " in Missouri i believe, the crowd booed him and he quickly changed to “you should have the freedom to choose.” I think narcissistic con man fits everything he does more accurately than fascist, but still that’s why when someone calls him a fascist I don’t really complain.
he hasn’t been able to enact “if you are trans you will be killed” like I would expect under fascism
Im sorry but what???
Do you think the Nazis were killing jews on day one? Fascism doesn’t only become fascism once they’ve done the big bad thing and the credits are rolling. It w was still fascism way before the gas chambers were spooled up.
By all accounts, the progress of their team this term has been faster than hitlers rise to power. There isn’t really any reason to just assume it will stop itself when hes been able to bounce off any sort of semblance of consequences for his actions thus far.
and he said trump plays to the crowd rather than saying what he believes
Thats most politicians to some degree and something hitler also did, like where he co-opted various labels to dismantle them.
I think narcissistic con man fits everything he does more accurately than fascist
I’m not sure I see the reasoning to think it can’t be both.
I mean I really don’t really disagree it just doesn’t feel exactly right to call it that, I guess I can give some reasons for it. For instance only about 35% of the population even voted for Trump, so he doesn’t really have the support of the people. Our democratically elected officials are still voting on bills, and they are still (mostly) being signed off by the president. The FCC did TRY to silence someone, but the will of the people made it not happen. They do try and suppress protestors from speaking against the government, but it’s been largely pretty ineffective, minus the random brutality.
I think it’s also just the reasons someone is doing something matters, even if it practically doesn’t. If trump fires all the judges that disagree with him and appoints people that agree with him, the reason is narcissism and hurt ego, and the effects are fascist. Which is why I would say fascist actions rather than a fascist, which might be a meaningless distinction but to some it’s not.
I’m not really sure, maybe it’s just the extent or the amount of incompetence that makes it different to me. It’s sort of like fascism-lite, because even if trump WANTS all trans people taken away / treated as undesirables and has caused a lot more people to hate them, he hasn’t been able to enact “if you are trans you will be killed” like I would expect under fascism. I also don’t feel like even the crazy maga people want the democratic party to not exist, they just want democrats to “stop being stupid.”
I was listening to an expert on cults talk about trump and MAGA, and he said trump plays to the crowd rather than saying what he believes. For instance when he said "I hope you’re all vaccinated " in Missouri i believe, the crowd booed him and he quickly changed to “you should have the freedom to choose.” I think narcissistic con man fits everything he does more accurately than fascist, but still that’s why when someone calls him a fascist I don’t really complain.
Im sorry but what???
Do you think the Nazis were killing jews on day one? Fascism doesn’t only become fascism once they’ve done the big bad thing and the credits are rolling. It w was still fascism way before the gas chambers were spooled up.
By all accounts, the progress of their team this term has been faster than hitlers rise to power. There isn’t really any reason to just assume it will stop itself when hes been able to bounce off any sort of semblance of consequences for his actions thus far.
Thats most politicians to some degree and something hitler also did, like where he co-opted various labels to dismantle them.
I’m not sure I see the reasoning to think it can’t be both.
I mean I really don’t really disagree it just doesn’t feel exactly right to call it that, I guess I can give some reasons for it. For instance only about 35% of the population even voted for Trump, so he doesn’t really have the support of the people. Our democratically elected officials are still voting on bills, and they are still (mostly) being signed off by the president. The FCC did TRY to silence someone, but the will of the people made it not happen. They do try and suppress protestors from speaking against the government, but it’s been largely pretty ineffective, minus the random brutality.
I think it’s also just the reasons someone is doing something matters, even if it practically doesn’t. If trump fires all the judges that disagree with him and appoints people that agree with him, the reason is narcissism and hurt ego, and the effects are fascist. Which is why I would say fascist actions rather than a fascist, which might be a meaningless distinction but to some it’s not.