• crystalmerchant@lemmy.world
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    23 hours ago

    …and do they sell data, including video, to law enforcement and insurance?

    Sincerely, A person who recently was in a fender bender and was not surprised at all when Progressive shared “incident footage” from a Ring camera across the street at a location completely unrelated to the fender bender

    (They ARE selling your data, folks. NEVER trust big tech to act in your best interest)

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      16 hours ago

      I stopped my Ring subscription but kept the doorbell camera.

      It wasn’t until a year later when I was moving and the house was almost completely empty (still had internet/wifi setup) and I looked at the wifi app and saw that the ring doorbell still had significant data usage.

      They were clearly still capturing my doorbell video.

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      15 hours ago

      It’s a rebranded Tuya device, and they don’t sell your data to any law enforcement or insurance.

      They do however comply with Chinese laws and all your data is readily available for the Chinese government.

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      21 hours ago

      Umm… that could have just been the other driver asking the person for their footage from the camera they saw.

      Not everything is a conspiracy dude, that’s commonly done after any incident lmfao.

      I have cameras and plenty of people have asked me for random footage for thefts and collisions, none being a company or insurance, always the person affected…

      Edit, sorry I guess once the police did, but still there’s nothing odd or weird about what happened to you.

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        Except it literally is a conspiracy (An agreement to perform together an illegal, wrongful, or subversive act.) and actually happening. Debatably it’s legal, rightful, and not subversive. I think most people would disagree though. It’s not like people are just guessing this is happening. We know the data is being sold, to the police/government, and presumably also to other companies.

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          In this case, it might not involve the surveillance company selling or sharing anything. All an insurance adjuster has to do is knock on doors in the area and ask the home owners if they are willing to share any video footage they have.

          And yes, people do this all the time. I work in this industry.

          I really hate to stand on the side of the data hoarding conglomerates, but there’s a significant chance they were not involved in the release of that video.

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            20 hours ago

            Just to be clear in most places it’s not legal to have a video camera pointed at the street (or your neighbors’ houses). Not that this has been enforced at all. But if somebody wanted to pursue you legally for that they could.

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              What places?

              Usually it’s a misinterpretation of the law, they are not meant to interfere with security and law enforcement. There’s always exceptions, usually it’s how they trigger or store the data. If it’s automatically wiped, usually no laws have been broken for example.

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                Don’t know about most places but regarding Germany, OP is correct. It’s verboten to film property of neighbours, public places or places shared with neighbours with your statically installed surveillance camera. You have to get consent of filming neighbours and you have to put up signs informing persons like delivery drivers that they’re getting filmed. That’s what my short search resulted in.

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          20 hours ago

          Sure, but people STILL knock on the doors. They likely didn’t participate in a conspiracy to get it, sorry.

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          And the companies are funded by the CIA and other feds.

          It’s on purpose because if the government did it outright people would get made… So instead they are killing all trust in American government by hiding behind other companies.

          The same thing the government is doing with crypto and other surveillance and ai…

          Listen to some Whitney webb on YouTube she’s all about talking about that stuff…

          Pretty sure it’s basically project 2025… America is funding these Epstein crime family types to basically build a new world lifestyle of most aspects of life being tracked more than they already are.